Joyous Expansion/Church of Awesome

Joyous Expansion #48: Sujit Lalwani - Founder of Inspirational Unlimited, A Source of Positive News

October 30, 2019 Sujit Lalwani Season 1 Episode 48
Joyous Expansion/Church of Awesome
Joyous Expansion #48: Sujit Lalwani - Founder of Inspirational Unlimited, A Source of Positive News
Show Notes Transcript

In this episode, Brett Dupree talks about how he is not living his vision in the way he desires and how he is working on changing that. Then he has a wonderful interview with Sujit Lalwani on how he was able to create a positive news network Inspirational Unlimited. He gives a lot of great tips on the mindset it takes to create a successful business. 


Mr. Sujit Lalwani is the Founder of IU (INSPIRATION
UNLIMITED)- A Global Inspirational Media. He is the author of LIFE
SIMPLIFIED! which is a simple coffee-table read solving complex
problems of life for youngsters (14-28 years of age). He has awarded
the CONNECTING THE WORLD AWARD at 1LifeFullyLived Conference
organized in November 2015 in Sacramento, California. He was a
Speaker at ONE YOUNG WORLD CONFERENCE 2012 in Pittsburgh and has
been a returning Ambassador for ONE YOUNG WORLD for 8 years.

Connect to Mr. Sujit Lalwani on Twitter: @sujitlalwani

Link of iU (Online Media): www.iuemag.com 

Life Simplified! Books: www.lifesimplifiedbook.com 

Brett Dupree (00:00):

Hi Sujit, welcome to my podcast.

Sujit Lalwani (00:03):

Oh, it's a pleasure being with you, Brett. I am looking forward to what we can together, you know, bring for listeners.

Brett Dupree (00:08):

You said you've been an entrepreneur about 16 years in your life.

Sujit Lalwani (00:12):

I would say that I started my career with sales and marketing when I was 18 and that was about four years and when I was 22 I kind of put my company in place. So I would say that it's been about 11 years being an entrepreneur. But yes, 15 years in sales and marketing. Well, sales and marketing career initially was more of an independent associate, be more fed, like the control as an entrepreneur and all of it was more like you do it for yourself. I coded as 15 years of entrepreneurship journey.

Brett Dupree (00:38):

Got you started in wanting to become an entrepreneur?

Sujit Lalwani (00:41):

One of the things that inspired me as I grew up was looking at my dad and how he worked as an entrepreneur. He started a small business, moved down to a city called Bengaluru in India and we were otherwise from a small town in a state called Rajasthan in India and he had moved to Bengaluru and he started his own business. He started dealing with false ceiling materials, plaster of Paris, and all of that. And he set up a business all by himself. He started employing people and as I saw him grow and have a little bit of control over his time as well, while there were days when he worked hard. I mean weeks together, maybe sometimes even months. There were other days when he had all the time for the family. And as I saw him do that, there was an inclination right from the early stages of life. Even I would get into business one point of time as I grew up and I learned more about entrepreneurs, read their stories, how they built very successful companies, and how exciting it is to lead creation. And given that I had this whole inclination towards even creating something that will be lasting beyond your lifetime. So, all of these kinds of synergize and move me to decide that I'm going to be an entrepreneur. Though I didn't know what business I would eventually end up setting up. I was kind of extremely interested in the very fact that I would be involved with business entrepreneurship. That will make me a strong problem solver. Eventually, I would figure my way out of what I would want to be doing. 

Brett Dupree (01:54):

I'm curious, what is the culture of entrepreneurship in India?

Sujit Lalwani (02:00):

Oh, the culture of entrepreneurship in India is kind of diverse. I mean and you have small businesses, you have medium segment enterprises, you have some profoundly serious entrepreneurs and off late, it's been the whole start of buzz for the last 10 years. So, there's a lot of venture capital angel funding coming in. While you know there were a lot of public regulations that didn't favor strength and growing up a business. It's in this era at this point, probably if you were to sit down with the millennials, every other person is so kicked about wanting to be an entrepreneur simply because you could address a pain point and solve the problem of so many people. So, this whole problem-solving spirit I think is forming or beginning to form a strong base for the entrepreneurship culture in India.

Brett Dupree (02:40):

What problem are you looking to solve?

Sujit Lalwani (02:42):

It's right from the very beginning. I think I have felt that there's so much positivity and positivity media that's lacking in the world. And I always felt every single morning when I woke up and I took the newspaper and I started reading, there's so much crime, politics and there's news about all around everything, a little bit of positive news. So, I always had this vision. I would like to do something that brings a positivity media in, you know, in the world. And that's how inspiration unlimited that is. IU got in place about seven and a half years ago and we've been doing good. We have a kind of dollar distribution channels and channel partners. We have a potential reach of almost close to 100 million downloads that all these people offered to us with possibly an active readers base of almost about 10 million-plus people. So that's how far we've gotten so far. But yes, I would like that. Anyone who wakes up and says, Hey listen, I would want to go down to a platform or a website that's 100% positive and no gossips otherwise about any negative news content that's otherwise going to put my energies down. I think they should look up to IU and come down to IU and spend enough time that could give them the kick for the day and they could get going. That's what I'm addressing.

Brett Dupree (03:43):

Were you always a positive person growing up?

Sujit Lalwani (03:45):

I would say that having been exposed to times where resources were limited, so our family had a 10 by 10 feet or that is about a hundred square feet of home and we were like seven of us or maybe a little before that. Having five of us were able to join the family with my father's rather than our other cousins, siblings. All of us came together and there would be summer holidays and some more of our far cousins will come down and we will be almost 20 people in that little house. So, having seen a pack of resources and how everybody being together as a family still was incredibly positive. We were quite hopeful about every other event that came by. Every new buy in the house was like a celebration when we learned all those things about how you know you could have big dreams, have good goals, so there are challenges in life. You could still put up with it and celebrate every single day and look forward to every next coming day. And I think that made a big difference in how a positive mind sort of shaped up exceedingly early on in my life. And I think yes, optimistic, and hopeful. I was from the early on and I could see a lot more positivity in the things I saw when I started growing up and my perspective enhanced. I saw that people couldn't see solutions in a lot of situations, but I could see some maybe. I guess I was lucky. I was lucky on, yes, from quite an early time. Probably a very thought-provoking question, but I must appreciate that. Ha, ha-ha.

Brett Dupree (04:57):

Was there a time where your positive outlook was challenged?

Sujit Lalwani (05:01):

I would, you know. I mean early on it was very hopeful, cheerful when all of the pressure of the buck stops on my table wasn't there the growing up years as an adult and maybe those times, I don't think they were challenged that often, but as I moved per time, so I thought I needed to take accountability of filling up and starting to create my own financial growth income and then build my organization, talk my own company when I started doing all of that and probably then take a sponsor, we have my family and all of that. I think there were times when you're challenged, and you have much bigger goals than you can take on. Deadlines are strict, kind of impose targets for yourself and you're learning so much more than you think know you have taken up on your table and you find yourself incompetent sometimes. So, every, so all of those situations I think puts you in a time where your GE talents and you don't really see that hopeful at times. And then those doubts start looking in whether this is really going to happen and are all these targets are going to get a to you. Am I even going to make it the destination or creation of the dream that I'm really dreaming about? Even the negative feedback kind of puts a sit back sometimes as you grew up and as you're putting your footsteps forward, all the negative feedback at the beginning of which does not really sound like a challenge that you could take on. You're expecting more of encouragement and as you start dealing and learning how to deal with rejections and disappointments or probably discouraging statements around those times, you know, doubts begin to lurk. But I think if you have a stronger positive outlook and you're more hopeful than you're optimistic, I think there's a battle between the two most often in my life, yes, I tried to win the battle on the side of being hopeful and positive, but I wouldn't say at all that high wasn't challenged by the doubts and the mindsets that were not so positive at times and they were almost closed doors in front of me. So yes, I would say there are times when you just kind of lose everything and sometimes you just say, Hey, let me have a good sleep. Wake up the next day and think about it.

Brett Dupree (06:45):

Was a time you actually lost everything?

Sujit Lalwani (06:47):

Oh yes. I would say when I was in my sales and marketing career early on five years, I moved out of my college. I thought I'll take that as a full-time career and a long-term livelihood and a career for myself. But I saw that one of the situations quite unforeseen, the organizing kind of topic because I wasn't the owner of the organization at that point in time and there were a lot of my business associates otherwise who would a part of my organization as well. And we were collective, you know, selling the product and the company had, the business had to come to a hard, because we had to stop the operation so some time and it was almost like, you know, owning a manufacturing plant and sitting on top of its leadership position and then almost seeing like the plant is going to be shut now that time as I would say that there was a massive change in direction needed. I had to figure my way out. I know and I had to have the people associated with me to figure the phase-out and decide of what's going to be next because we knew that this is in going to continue. This is something we can pursue longer. Another basket that I put my eggs into. I knew I had to figure a whole new way out and that point I would say it was a terrific loss, especially of the dreams that were seen already. Put a pause altogether, put a new vision in place at that transition I think was the most challenging one and I think such times have repeated. Of course, I wouldn't say they haven't happened again, but you know in different patterns I would say or in different formats or in different styles. They do come again, but one reference in your past and you look ahead and say, Hey listen, if I could pull through them, I can pull through now and then your second reference happens and then the third time you're like, Hey if I could pull it to the 10 I can still pull it through this morning. Maybe that's when I really learned one of these phrases. One of my mentors, I mean I had several mentors. I would look up to a lot of people. Sometimes I found good qualities and people I would say I would learn from this person. I would learn from their qualities and good qualities and I would have more conversations with them, and I would learn a lot about how they deal with things. It's a lot of my mentors ended up teaching me that, hey listen, just remember one thing, this too shall pass. So that gave me strength all the time. Whenever there were very tough times I would say, Hey, this too shall pass, and I'll figure my way out. And one-day things will be much better than they are right now. So, I did have such occasions, Brett. 

Brett Dupree (08:40):

One thing we like to do in the United States of America is too kind of prop up our supposed self-made millionaires or in people who are quote-unquote self-made. So, it sounded, see here that you got a lot of mentors. So, in India, do they share that idea of people should do it upon themselves, pull themselves up by their bootstraps, or do you guys encourage getting mentors and partners?

Sujit Lalwani (09:02):

I think there's a mix of both, but I think over a period of time of me growing up in my journey, I think I've come to a conclusion that it's very, very pivotal that we have mentors and of course we do have kind of culture that if somebody sees this mentor and they feel very comfortable and free to actually acknowledge their mentors as well. So, a large part of our culture, yes, definitely encourages. Having a mentor and mentors really are free to coach the other people and empower them and grow them up in the other. You should somebody reach out to them. It's not like everybody who's made it to success is by default assigned, to mentor everybody else. But there are a lot of people that I see around that have made it a good position. And then you know, they engage a lot through various organizations and foundations to mentor others. And there are enough people who get mentored and look up to having mentors and that kind of a culture is around an India pretty much Brett.

Brett Dupree (09:53):

So, it came to be an entrepreneur where your biggest mental roadblocks in selling and marketing and creating your own business?

Sujit Lalwani (10:00):

I think one of the biggest roadblocks for me was to take my business as a business. A lot of times I would get more emotional than I stuck to my business as a business. That I think one, it was one of the strongest roadblocks at the very onset. Sometimes when I knew that I was bleeding or that area was not performing well, or we wouldn't driving enough sales, but I was really emotional about that particular vertical or idea. I would keep driving it further and further, but the losses would keep increasing. Maybe we'll bleed more than we would have, or we should have, and I think that was one of the earlier blocks and I learned through failures. Itself that once you have an idea and that's not taking by and given sufficient time efforts and experiments and your feedback loop has also kind of done some course correction for itself. You have to set apart that particular line of production and see the way that you are looking for the next opportunity of growth unless and until it's an idea or a vision that all that you want to be building, but then you didn't get your business model right as your course correction went by and you stuck to a business model, but that business model isn't performing but you stick to the whole business model and division simply because you're emotional about it. I think that was one of my strongest roadblocks Brett

Brett Dupree (11:07):

What came to start inspirational unlimited magazines? What were your first steps? How did that go along?

Sujit Lalwani (11:13):

Me and my brother, we were having a discussion one day and he was like, oh my God, there's so much negativity in the newspapers that you're not going to find so much positive news. There are no media that kind of takes leadership in doing this. At least a platform, at least an online website that covers a lot of positive news or at least publishes or positive articles and positive alone. Maybe something like that should come up. I'm extremely disappointed that nothing like that exists. So, when he said all of that, I felt tight time that stopped blaming and take accountability for doing something. And maybe you know, when people tried, they failed. Or probably just didn't click for them. Maybe we should do and see what are the challenges for the very next day, I came to my team and said, we were running a training company back then and the name of the training company was inspiration unlimited and was IU.

Sujit Lalwani (11:54):

That's largely because I was a motivational speaker and I would deliver speeches and come back and people will find it so impactful that we'll come back a couple of years or two years later to me and say that those two hours were very life-changing for me and the impact is so deep that I still carry that positive energy with me. And every time I feel low, I just close my eyes and recall your speech. So, when first of this feedback came, I thought probably that's very encouraging, that sweet of them. But then when that feedback repeated, I felt, okay, let me, let me understand this as this is an unlimited inspiration. This is lasting for a much longer time in each of these people to let me name my company as inspiration unlimited and that's how it started as a training company. But then the way they, me, and my brother had this conversation, I came back to my team and I said, we are launching an online media because I didn't have money to go for the print media at that point in time and needed the expertise to do that.

Sujit Lalwani (12:38):

Given that the vision has started, given that the idea had come in and given that that conversation happened, I said this is still a part of the vision that I can feel so deep that this is something I would surely take leadership and accountability to do. No, no matter how difficult or how less informed I was at that point in time or how difficult it might get as the future unfolds because I might have particular of education very nearly because this was something not of my domain, but I still took the challenge and the leadership and said, listen, we're going to launch this online media and we're going to do it. And then the first question the team said everybody had was probably going to do it. And I said, but still one thing, but a search a little bit on what other online media exists. And that's when I found that there were these blogs and they were these e-magazines and I said, we're not going to be a blog alone.

Sujit Lalwani (13:17):

We're going to be an e-magazine lawsuit. They were still not extraordinarily strong differentiation between them, but the positioning was still different. So, I said, e-magazine is the positioning we need. We are going to come across as online media. We are not going to be a blog alone. We're going to have journalists; we're going to have people getting interviewed. So, all of that is going to happen. So, we can position ourselves as online media. And we launched a small subscription box on our existing training website and said, Hey, Hey guys, in case you want to subscribe to the world and number one inspiration e-magazine kids where you would drop your email ID, we're launching this newsletter the very next month. Then from the newsletter, we said, no, this is an e-magazine. So, this is going to be a monthly edition of e-magazine that's gonna come out, right.

Sujit Lalwani (13:54):

Drop it right into your inbox. And as we evolved for about two and a half years, like that month after month, I realized that it was best we made it an online platform like Wikipedia, but lots of articles and positive news and so many categories. And that's when we decided that we are going to go to the blog-style e-magazine. And that's how after about 20 months, in fact, we put IUEMAG.com in place. We bought a separate domain for [Inaudible] publishing. And then that's how we became the online media. And that's when we decided now is the time to probably have few ideas. The inspirational jockeys as we call it, the inspirational journalists interchangeably. We use that term as IJs, RJ is they will VJs. They were mjs but there were no ideas. I said we are going to have IJs and very uniquely people can be volunteering IJs or IJs because we at the point in time didn't have the budget to hire too many IJs.

Sujit Lalwani (14:39):

We opened this position as volunteering ideas for so many people. People were interested. They came forward, we are going to cover stories and we are going to write for you because there's a beautiful vision and that's how we got a lot of support and that's how the journey happened and about 4 years ago we opened the platform for media partnerships and online media partnerships with summits and Brett, you would be happy to know that we are now partnered with over 400 summits from across 35 plus countries. Some of the world's best summits, in fact, sky drone technology, something like Skype from London, big data summit from Malaysia, the cafe Asia summit in Singapore. The women in technology summit in the US. So, some such very, wonderful summits to be a partner with at this point in time as precisely now partnership status that these summits give us is an online media partner. The dream bell came through seven and a half years ago as a seed that started, you know, today. And in fact, today if any part of the world, people who are listening right now, if they go down and Google inspirational e-magazine amongst the top three or probably, you know, I would not be wrong in making the claim that we are the number one link globally not, but day one we had the tagline, the number one inspiration e-magazine. So that's something that sums up the study of online media Brett.

Brett Dupree (15:42):

Congratulations.

Sujit Lalwani (15:42):

Thank you.

Brett Dupree (15:44):

So, let's back up a little bit. You said you started in sales and marketing. How'd you go from sales and marketing into motivational speaking?

Sujit Lalwani (15:50):

In the platform that I was working with for sales and marketing, it was an educational package that we were supposed to market. Much of the marketing took place by inviting a lot of people to a seminar and then educating them about the product and then letting them know the pros and cons of the product and how you use it, educating them about how other people have used it and stuff, and then that's how those sales were actually conducted. So that kind of continuously week after week put me into a cycle of delivering those seminars and then to keep a lot of my team members who were a part of my team who said, Hey listen, we are going to be a part of your team too. And this product as well put me into a place where I would organize leadership workshops and motivational training for all of these people and that's how we would afford years with a lot of these kinds of events conducted.

Sujit Lalwani (16:31):

I knew that there was an ability to deliver sales training to a lot of people that I had and to be able to actually inspire them, give them leadership workshops, but I really didn't know that inspirational speaker is something I could have become at that point in time. But as I researched more on the internet, I found some of these amazing people doing a good job. You know, I heard about Tony Robbins and [inaudible] and [inaudible] and all these people. When I read about Stephen Covey, Oh, you know, Brian Tracy, Zig Ziglar, I felt, you know, there's this is something I would love to pursue. I would love to deliver sales training to a lot of groups of people or companies and inspire them towards higher performance levels and better leads, you know, better leadership standards. And that's when I decided this is something I would love to have as a part of my life, but I didn't know this could be a livelihood or career.

Sujit Lalwani (17:16):

And that's when I opened up-channel into my network and past the word out saying that if anyone's keen on having me, deliver a particular workshop at a seminar or a leadership talk or other talk on any other particular agenda they might think could do justice, maybe they could discuss with me and I would be happy to come down. And back then I didn't have any professional charges for it because I didn't know if I could really charge for such gigs or this could be my career because I said I was already into sales and marketing. So, when I opened up people kind of got interested that okay, we would love to invite you. We would love to give a trial because they knew that I wasn't really charging any money. So they were like, okay, we would love to experiment if this goes great, we would love to invite you again, you know, and then maybe we could see how the whole thing can work on.

Sujit Lalwani (17:54):

We could organize a bigger gathering for you. So, one after the other. I think those talks went successful the way initial talks that I delivered and that's how the word of mouth kind of spread and for almost over three years you will be surprised to know that. I never really charged for my inspirational talks because I didn't know that those speaking gigs were something I could charge for. But yes, by the back of my mind after a year of delivering these speeches and also it was the same time and I had to move out of my earlier career, I knew that this could be a sound profession or a professional career for myself that I could really build please to start out with because I knew I had to continue as an entrepreneur. That would be something I would pursue. What is that first product or service that I can offer to my customers or clients?

Sujit Lalwani (18:33):

Because there was no other skill set that I thought I could put together as a service that I could offer because I was, it was not like I was a technology developer or anything like that. So, I knew that motivational speaking and delivering these workshops was my strongest skill set. So, I put together a product around that and I said, I'm more than willing to actually come forward and tell you what these sessions. So that's how the shift from addressing a lot of those workshops and meetings for my business to now delivering it to people because I thought this is something I could pursue the long term and I have the acumen and the knack flooded and the feedback that continuously came in that yes I was doing well. All of this moved me towards taking up motivation, speaking as a career Brett.

Brett Dupree (19:10):

Cool. So, what lead you to write your book Life Simplified.

Sujit Lalwani (19:14):

This is, this is something I really love to answer because I was dealing with so many complexities myself and the so many answers I was seeking. I was each time trying to understand how do I deal with the situations I was being thrown out from having my college years, getting involved in the business early on, you know, not being able to manage my time for friends, a family going off, going, having an imbalance rather. And then probably I'm trying to understand how I get this so-called work-life balance, and which was pretty difficult for me. So, I would always go this imbalance and find a new equilibrium also all these things and then there were bigger questions like should I follow my heart? Should I go the traditional way? Should I take a job offer, my engineering is done? Should I take up a core technical job?

Sujit Lalwani (19:53):

Should I pursue higher education? So, some of these questions at the back of my mind would keep looking even though I knew that I had to be an entrepreneur, what the inclination was towards that. But these questions always each time there were these times of doubts and times of concerns within me of what it is going to be next and probably a lot of things and people would come to me and ask, how do I deal with the situations or how do I resolve this particular challenge in my life? Besides the sales coaching, people would connect so deeply that they would even come down to me with their personal problems. Even trying to understand if they really walking on their purpose or not or probably if I could help them find their purpose in life or just the way I figured sales and marketing and speaking could be something close and near and dear to me.

Sujit Lalwani (20:31):

They would always have these questions. How do I figure it out? Could you help me do it? So when I saw that these many things exist around me, these many people have challenges around what's the purpose of life, why am I doing, what am I doing? How do I figure out if I'm passionate about something, am I interested in it or can I get really get committed? Can I convert this into a career? I'm interested in music, but will I pay my bills? All these things plus the complexities I was doing in my life. I think that brought me to write this book, but there's one more thing I would love to share. I was a non-reader a perfect non-reader example until I turned about 18 or 18 and a half. I really, really had no interest in the reading theory of self-help books or probably any other books like novels or anything apart from the academic books.

Sujit Lalwani (21:12):

And hence I thought that if I wrote a book that's really a thick, too many pages, too much of content, non-readers like me who are actually in such complexities and still would want to read some books and help themselves, but they would go down to these books and not be able to read because they just don't take to reading as well as the others do. So, I decided I'm going to write a coffee table book, which is going to feel like a very wonderful conversation with the reader and make them feel amazingly comfortable that okay, it's okay. It's totally okay if you are first a non-reader second, have a complex life third half these questions about life purpose, passion, and all the challenges. It's totally okay. I do have it, and this is how I resolved it and much like the habit of reading that I had that I would put a highlighter or underlying a few of those most important quotes and sentences.

Sujit Lalwani (21:56):

I thought, why not do something like put out a lot of these quotes on an entire page in so many different pages so that whenever people pick up this book, especially the ones that are really influenced by this book, no matter what phase they open, they have something to look back, take away as a memory. You're probably just feeling that kick and then pull forward. So, this book serves as a daily inspiration or dose for them. So, this is how actually Life Simplified happens. And then I put the brackets that it's applicable for these young people who are making their way up from 14 to 28 and especially non-readers. So that's how Life Simplified might happen, Brett

Brett Dupree (22:26):

Awesome. So, we're coming to the end of our time together. One thing I like to ask my guests is to do one minute of motivation. You can think of this as if you have a time machine and you're going back to your eight-year-old self and you want to convey the information needed to live a successful life, but you only have a minute, or you can think of that as taking your entire life's message purpose and honing it down to a minute. So, are you ready to go?

Sujit Lalwani (22:51):

This is very, very exciting. Of course, I am ready to go. So maybe you could go three, two, one and tell me to start and then I go over it. But I really love this idea of breadth. I would have one. I appreciate that. All right.

Brett Dupree (23:04):

Start.

Sujit Lalwani (23:04):

All right. So one of the things that if I look back in my life and you know, I would like to advise myself at the onset if I met it would be if you really want to go very, very far in life and be very successful, you have to start really early. You cannot delay it. I started at 18 and I still feel that was quite late. So, I advise every single listener right now. No matter where you are, what you're doing, this is the best time to start working on yourself, towards your goals. Plan them out, put a to-do list, put a to be list for yourself, decide what you're really going to be or what you want to become, what kind of list you want to address, what kind of a bucket list you want to put for yourself for this one life and start now. The second thing that I want to share is if there's any idea any dream that you have, do not put it off for later. That should be just one mantra and that does it now. There shouldn't be, I do it next, I'll do it later. Or probably this is an idea that's capital intensive for people who are wanting to start businesses. This is the idea of capital intensive. I don't have support. I don't have people. I do not know if this is really gonna work, but all of those aside and say do it now. The third thing that I want to share with everybody is the best things that really helped me to get so much of leadership abilities and talents were mentoring and helping people because that just made me so comfortable, joyous deeds that could not be paid back in casual kind.

Sujit Lalwani (24:24):

This is something I would love to tell everyone. Corporate social responsibility is doing great. The world now needs individually, socially responsible people. Individual social responsibility is on the radar and I would sum it up seeing that, Hey guys, it's high time. They realized they've been human beings for an exceptionally long time. It's time to become human doings. All of this is what I would tell myself, the earliest self that just started out and this is something I have for all the listeners I hope I would hear from you as a human doing and not just being human beings. That's it, Brett.

Brett Dupree (24:55):

Thank you so much, Sujit for coming to my podcast. I really enjoyed listening to your story about how you created an inspirational online newspaper. The positive news is very needed in today's world as in my humble opinion. There are a lot of more positive things happening now than ever in the entirety of human history. And it's nice that somebody is out there pointing it out that you know what, we are not that bad of a species as people like to point us out to be. So, thank you for making a positive contribution to your community and thank you for making this world a better place.

Sujit Lalwani (25:29):

Thank you so much, Brett, for having me on your podcast, and in fact, I would really, really appreciate so many more people coming down to your podcasts and sharing their stories. And I also appreciate the fact that you really believe that positive media like this is so much needed. And I also appreciate the fact that you pointed out very rightly that that is more positive things than ever in the history that are happening. But so few actually come to the light and we are very happy to be working towards it. And I think podcasts like yourself are also a terrific impact. You know, much in alignment with creating positive content on the internet, kudos to you too. And we will be incredibly happy to share all your broadcasts or anything and on your podcast that needs to be shared with all our readers. It'll be a pleasure for us to kind of partner you and take all of your podcasts as our content, and then push it across to our readers to that so many more people could actually benefit from the kind of podcast you're creating. You know, because it's, there's so much synergy between the kind of work we do. So, thank you so much for having me on your show Brett.

Brett Dupree (26:26):

I appreciate that greatly made your day be special.

Sujit Lalwani (26:28):

Thank you. We should the same Brett. Thank you so much.